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Algebar Orion
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:10:00 -
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I have begun training of my character to be able to acquire better warships. However I have one question regarding that issue. If I want to buy a ship in the ship's requirements tab there is an information about training time period needed to have skills necessary to pilot it. This training period lasts from several days to several months. Is there any possibility to speed up this process? I have read about implants of boosters but I don't know exactly how they works. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:41:00 -
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Implants:
- train cybernetics to level 1
- for combat pilot crucial attributes are Perception and Willpower
- buy two implants and put them into slots 1 and 3
- restart training of chosen skills and they will be learned faster
Am I right? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:57:00 -
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OK, I have just finished training Cybernetics up to level 1. Now I will buy two basic implants adding +3 points to Willingness and Perception for 10 mil each. I am curious how they accelerate my Spaceship Command training.
Kira Emomoto: As I understand Spaceship Command abilities are required only to board purchased and trained spaceships but other skills are needed to efficiently flight these ships? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:10:00 -
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Spaceship Command (67) - Perception, Willpower (beginner) / Willpower, Perception (advanced)
So I assume boosting both attributes by +3 points will speed up Spaceship Command training. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:23:00 -
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All this is so complicated...  |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:42:00 -
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Not PvP. Rather missions and PvE. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 17:18:00 -
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Well, I bought all five +3 implants and made remap like this: 27, 20, 27, 20, 20. Let's hope it will do the job!
Of course I do not plan to board T2 beasts, but only T1 ships, so I suppose my boosted training time will be enough to achieve that goal quickly.
Is there any penalty for flying spaceships not belonging to pilot's race? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:44:00 -
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Odd thing happened. I set up second toon on my account and tried to train him in cybernetics but game refused demanding 1 PLEX for additional "slot" because my first toon also trained cybernetics. What is going on??? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 20:55:00 -
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What? Can't I develop two or three personalities in the same time? So why three slots are available in this game? 
EDIT:
Nope! That's not true! I can train many characters but in the same time only one of them can be trained! So I must consider what end-game ship to choose and set training path accordingly. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:29:00 -
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I have brand-new account. Where can I get cerebral accelerators? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:35:00 -
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Nevermind! Training speed with those implants is quite good - 2 days and I will be able to board battleship. Anyway, what race heavy ships are better: Caldari or Gallente or maybe Navy Issued and Pirates? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:50:00 -
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To be able to fly battleship does not mean I will do it in four days. Simply put I want to have this part of overall progress "task accomplished" to concentrate on training of another skills. So next I will buy some destroyer or cruiser and playing EVE I will be training core and auxiliary skills. Anyway I don't want to fly small warships any minute longer than necessary and that is why I ask what nation heavier warships are better. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:57:00 -
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LOL! Should I fly frigates for several years to gain enough experience to switch to heavy ships? No way! 
I must clear that I need "ship-tools" to carry out level 2-3-4 missions in high-sec and PvE. That means two possible paths:
- Caldari path: Caracall -> Drake -> Raven -> CNR -> Golem -> Phoenix
- Gallante path: Thorax -> Brutix -> Dominix -> Machariel -> Kronos -> Moros |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:36:00 -
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Don't worry! I can change/improve my remap by getting better implants (+4, +5) so other skills will be trained without much penalty.
Yes, I have looked at prices (without fit of course) and standard ships are several times cheaper than Navy (550 mil.) and Pirate (800-1000 mil. - crazy Vindicator!) beasts. However the latter are rather T2 ships so I won't board them anyway. So I won't cross T1 BS threshold which means Raven and Dominix are the limit. Of course soon I'll start game-play beginning from standard cruisers. Also I must learn more about drones and fighters because they seem to be cool in EVE!
Anyway now my chars only "passively" train so see you next week!  |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.24 14:56:00 -
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What is going on? I have non-trial account PLEX-ed two days ago almost instantly after creating it, so I got almost a month and a half long first playtime period. Good deal! Gank each other if you are bored playing EvE or reading forum.
As far as above mentioned things are concerned I know there are advanced "lighter" spaceships but they are at T2 technology level and thus I would train to board them probably much longer than heavy T1 warships. Therefore that's no reason for me to do so. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.24 16:56:00 -
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Yeas! That is my first fit! |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.24 17:39:00 -
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Anyway I should finish training skills for this fit tomorrow. Also one question about weapons: I should buy Scourge Heavy Missile as an ammunition for Malkuth launchers but what number of this missiles to buy? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:37:00 -
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What is Mastery Level Certificate? What is difference amongst 1-5 levels? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.26 13:14:00 -
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That's exactly what Master Certificate levels for each ship are for. Every player has its own strategy for his career path. I decided to train skills needed to board all four races T1 combat ships first. That does not mean I will board battleships first but I want to have freedom of choice at hand. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.26 20:11:00 -
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OK, here you are my latest developments:
- after two and a half days of constant training I have reached Caldari Batteship level II skill so I can board all T1 Caldari warships. That was my premiere goal!
- now I abandon training skills needed to board other races ships because I will concentrate my time and effort on training Caldari warships skills only
- thus I will try to get Mastery Certificates level 1-5 for Caldari cruisers, battlecruisers and battleships
- also core skills are important so I will train them also together with MC levels
As I understand Caldari warships use predominately various missile types as their main weapons with Drones being secondary one. Therefore those two training areas are most important to me now. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.26 21:24:00 -
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I looked at Caldari missile skills training time to be able to fit various missile types. Now I must wait for:
- T1 heavy missiles - 10h
- T1 torpedoes - 1d 10h
- T1 cruise missiles - 5d 2h
- T2 heavy missiles - 17d 12h
- T2 torpedoes - 22d 15h
- T2 cruise missiles - 27d 17h
It is quite long journey to get T2 stuff! Are T1 weapons enough for LV 3-4 missions against AI? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.26 22:46:00 -
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I see. BTW, heavy missiles are for BC and torpedoes and cruise missiles are for BS? Also this "fraction ammo" is a bit mystery to me. Can I fire it from T1 launchers or only from fraction launchers? How it compare to T2 ammo? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.26 22:55:00 -
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Great! What are best T1 fraction heavy missiles, torps and cruise missiles? I must live with T1 weapons for a month. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.26 23:17:00 -
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Of course! Anyway there is a bit too much weapon types in EVE for my taste!
In short there are four types missile damage: kinetic, explosive, thermal and EM so I should always have missiles of all four types on-board just in case. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.26 23:48:00 -
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In short, torpedoes are for PvP and cruise missiles for PvE? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.27 14:27:00 -
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So all that looks different than I thought. There is no ideal fit because everything depends on actual enemy you must fight. Thanks for clarification. Fortunately I want to begin combat in missions against single profile damage rats. Tomorrow I will almost finish training of Mastery Certificate I for Raven battleship so my options will be a bit more flexible.
If it is true that Caldari CNR missile battleship is overally weaker than "laser-railgun-blaster" warships as you suggest, I will buy Vindicator but that means another week long training.  |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.27 16:31:00 -
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I am fielding nice T1 faction Raven's fit against Guristas rats:
[HIGH]
6 x "Arbalet" torpedo launcher, Mjonir torpedo
1 x Small Tractor Beam I
[MID]
2 x "Dread Guristas" Kinetic Deflection Field
1 x "Dread Guristas" Thermic Dissipation Field
1 x "Dread Guristas" X-Large Shield Booster
2 x "Domination" Shield Boost Amplifier
[LOW]
3 x "Pandemonium" Ballistic Control System I
2 x "Page" Capacitor Flux Coil I
[RiG]
3 x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
[DRONES]
5 x "Integrated" Hammerhead
5 x "Integrated" Hobgoblin
It should be ready tomorrow. What do you think about it? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.27 19:03:00 -
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Where are those NPC spies? On this forum? I do not understand this. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.27 19:18:00 -
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OK, so let them find me.  |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.27 21:35:00 -
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OK, you are right. I sold my faction stuff and now I train for cheaper T2 stuff. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.28 00:36:00 -
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Calm down guys. I do not plan to fit carrier and fly somewhere to do LV5 missions. I pumped some cash into this game and now I have big enjoyment trading on EVE market with various cheap and expensive goods (search, compare many similar items to found the best etc.) and learning warship's fitting in the same time. As for this previous fit I found on the Internet Caldari BS T2 fit and I was trying to replicate it with Faction items. Also I have just discovered some Officer's stuff being amazingly expensive! There is also Storyline stuff. This game is crazy because of plethora of items present. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:23:00 -
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Now I learn Active Shield Tanking strategy and fits in-depth. It's quite complicated stuff. The crucial question is if cap stability is a must or not? If not, what time duration is enough before capacitor shuts off? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:52:00 -
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Why not? One can fit four types of torps. Doesn't matter. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.29 11:56:00 -
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I see. Simply I did not put all four damage type torps in this fit. Normally I prefer to have them all in ship's hangar.
What maximum range of torps and cruise missiles can I achieve with top skills?
Anyway AST core fit looks like this:
- 1 x Shield Booster
- 1 x Shield Amplifier
- 3 x mission specific or omni-tank hardeners
- 1 x Cap Recharger
- 1 x Power Diagnostic System
- 1 x Damage Control
- 3 x CCC I
Am I right? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:41:00 -
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Wow! That is huge divide between torps and CM range! I wonder how to fight PvE in BS armed with torps at so close range! It must be suicidal. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.29 15:39:00 -
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I see. So torpedo armed BS fit should also include: Afterburner, MJD, Nosferatu and Target Painter? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.29 17:45:00 -
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OK. As for Active Shield Tank fit I have noticed that after enabling all active shielding stuff there are new damage mitigation stats available for shield, armor and ship structure against four types of damage. What damage mitigation per cent do you consider adequate in this situation? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.29 18:43:00 -
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Thanks! Anyway more than 50% is good! |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.15 10:21:00 -
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Hello!
I did not waste last three weeks. I was training my skills hard. Now I think I am ready for LV4 missions but I do not know where to find LV4 agents. All I can find now are LV1 and LV2 agents. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.15 10:44:00 -
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Not good. So I must grind trough LV 1-2-3 missions to be able to fly LV4 ones. Don't you know how much time it can take? |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.15 12:00:00 -
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I think my char and ship are now pretty good to take LV4's challenge: 810 dps gank and 600/900 dps sustained/pulsed omni-tank. |
Algebar Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.15 15:09:00 -
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OK, I will be training Social, Connections and Negotiations skills next while running low-level missions flying temporary cheap destroyer or cruiser. Faction War is form of PvP so I am not interested in it. Let's hope I will enable LV4 missions quickly.
PS. OMG, a few clowns is trolling here. Get out of this thread and this sub-forum along with your unfounded guesses! Besides someone who dares to scare newbies with ganking in NCQA forum should be banned. |
Algebar Orion
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Posted - 2014.03.23 11:49:00 -
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Yesterday I did several LV4 missions for the first time! Piece of cake, massacre after massacre, several dozen millions ISK a piece! Good job!  |
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